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Good Discussion on the Prophetic Voice of the Church

Posted at: Rev. Gil | Syndicated: June 29th, 2006 @ 8:16 pm

Cats III

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 28th, 2006 @ 11:46 am

Religious groups work to hurry apocalypse - baltimoresun.com

Posted at: Just My Opinion | Syndicated: June 26th, 2006 @ 3:36 pm

Shurden’s “Flaming Torch” Speech Online

Posted at: Mainstream Baptist | Syndicated: June 26th, 2006 @ 3:17 pm

The speech that Walter Shurden gave at the BJC luncheon last week about the Baptist Joint Committee being "A Flaming Torch" is now online.

Shurden is always outstanding. This speech, however, is doubly so. It is essential reading for all moderate, mainstream Baptists. Here's an excerpt:


Let me be clear at the outset. I am not suggesting that we are on the lip of any kind of political totalitarianism in this country. I don't believe that.

I am suggesting, however, that there are "American Christians" for whom the adjective is more important than the noun.

I am suggesting that some Christian churches in our country have been transformed into political temples and some pastors have embraced the moniker of "patriot pastors."

I am suggesting that devoted theocrats have an eye on the machinery of national and state governments, and that they make no apology for it.

And I am suggesting that a skewed reading of our nation's history is sending forth armies of buck privates scurrying to wreck Jefferson's wall.


IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE


But many blithely say, "It can't happen here." The last time I heard that was in a hotel lobby in Houston, Texas, in 1979, after the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention when the fundamentalists began their complete takeover of the SBC.

"But we have a Constitution that makes things clear," so it cannot happen here.

"We have a Bill of Rights and the First Amendment that makes things even clearer."

"Our national pluralism will not permit it to happen here."

And in an otherwise beautiful and provocative book, American Gospel, Jon Meacham optimistically forecasts that it cannot happen here because of the existence of a sane middle in American life that will not permit it to happen here.


IT CAN HAPPEN HERE


Let me tell you why I believe it can happen here, this idolatrous mixing of church and state.

It can happen here because "Generation Joshua" is loose in our country. Have you heard of "Generation Joshua?" It is an effort by Michael Farris, founder of Patrick Henry College, to turn Christian, home-schooled students into political foot soldiers to gain political power in order to subsume everything -- entertainment, law, government, and education -- under their right wing version of Christianity. Like Joshua of the Hebrew Bible, Generation Joshua's job is to possess the land, to conquer the land, or, in the words of the religious right, "to take back the land." And, according to Michael Harris, in the spring semester of 2004, Patrick Henry College had more interns in the White House than any other college in the nation. It can happen here because of a religious right-wing militancy.

It can happen here because by 2004 The Christian Coalition gave 42 out of 100 United States senators a rating of 100%. More than half of the senators received ratings of 83% by the militant Christian Coalition. It can happen here because sincere religious ideologues are rampant in our country, and they mean business.

It can happen here because a recent survey of 100,000 high school students in America concluded that one out of three students believes that the First Amendment goes TOO FAR in the rights it guarantees! That last sentence ought to be absolutely horrendous to your ears. In fact, that sentence reminds me of a phone call we got about 12:30 one night when we were living in Louisville, Ky. The call was from Wayne Dehoney, pastor of Walnut Street Baptist Church in the city. He said, "Walter, this is Wayne Dehoney, I just received a call from Cullman, Ala., and Grady Nutt was killed in a plane crash tonight. I knew that you were close friends, so I am calling to tell you so that you can go be with his wife." It was my first and only death notice in the middle of the night. I remember saying in stunned shock and disbelief, "Wayne, you are going to have to say that again." He said, "I understand." And then, with all those years of pastoral care under his belt, he slowly said once more, "I received a call from Cullman, Ala., and Grady Nutt was killed in an airplane crash tonight."

I do not trivialize my dear friend Grady Nutt's death by saying to you that, if you hear it carefully, the sentence about the high school students and the First Amendment has all the tone and sound of a death announcement in the middle of the night about someone you love. So I want to repeat it, slowly, so that it will sink in: ONE IN THREE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THIS REPUBLIC SAYS THAT THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES GOES TOO FAR IN THE RIGHTS IT GUARANTEES TO YOU AS A CITIZEN!

The survey did not end there, however. It contained more surprises. More shocking still, only one-half of the students surveyed said that a newspaper should be allowed to publish freely without government approval of stories.

My friends, we are talking about my grandchildren's future here! This is America's tomorrow speaking! One third of them want the freedoms of the First Amendment curbed. And one half of them want newspapers to secure government approval for their stories!! These are astonishing and inconceivable attitudes for high school students in the United States of America. This survey is a terrible, scary phone call in the middle of the night about what has happened and what is happening in our nation. It can happen here because of ignorance of our history.

Cats II

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 26th, 2006 @ 12:29 pm

Shurden’s Address at the Baptist Joint Committee Luncheon

Posted at: Rev. Gil | Syndicated: June 26th, 2006 @ 12:05 pm

All Gore Interviewed by Ethics Daily.com

Posted at: Rev. Gil | Syndicated: June 26th, 2006 @ 6:27 am

Baptist Center for Ethics Luncheon

Posted at: Rev. Gil | Syndicated: June 25th, 2006 @ 3:44 pm

NPR : New Book Examines Christian Nationalism

Posted at: Just My Opinion | Syndicated: June 25th, 2006 @ 9:49 am

Fraudulent Time Sheets - Prelude

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 24th, 2006 @ 3:41 am

Rights being Bitten…

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 23rd, 2006 @ 5:21 pm

On Cats…

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 23rd, 2006 @ 7:57 am

The Values of Jesus Replacing Relationship with Jesus

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 23rd, 2006 @ 5:48 am

The Inerrancy Fallacy

Posted at: Tike's Best Friend | Syndicated: June 22nd, 2006 @ 5:41 pm

PEACE TAKES COURAGE

Posted at: Just My Opinion | Syndicated: June 22nd, 2006 @ 11:03 am

How being right can hurt

Posted at: Inspired thoughts | Syndicated: June 21st, 2006 @ 12:30 pm

I know I haven't posted on this website for a long time. I haven't felt like I have had a lot of things to write about. A lot of what I've been thinking and praying about haven't been ideas that I want to share with the blog reader world. That being said, I feel the need to write about an experience that happened to me months ago. I was not in the right place to write about this earlier, because the emotions were too high and the experience too fresh. This experience that I had was very painful and involved people that I had trusted, and I was very emotional for some time. I needed to get some perspective and only time can bring that.

That being said, the topic I've been wanting to address is about being right. We as Christians have our beliefs and doctrines that we hold very dearly and these doctrines are important. We base our lives on our faith and it becomes so much a part of our identity as people. But the truth of the matter is that not all Christians agree on every point in the Bible, and I truly believe that we are not meant to agree on every point of the Bible. I believe that God made us to think for ourselves and it is certainly not a bad thing to disagree about messy scriptures in the Bible. There are topics in all denominations that are sticky issues and they will always exist, because of different opinions about what the Bible says. Needless to say, there is a reason why we have denominations, because different denominations serve different populations and cultures. As far as I'm concerned, we're all on the same team. We have the same Jesus, the same salvation, and the same eternal life. This makes us a team.

Apparently I was mistaken when I originally thought that all Christians were open to discuss all issues, and put aside judgments and just plain bigotry. I was dead wrong. Now I know I sound like some bitter person, but to let you know I was bitter. I was hurt very deeply and I don't think I really realized it until now, which is a good while later. I think the only way to heal is to let it go and let God take care of it. I've tried my darndest to forgive and forget, but its a daily process and not an easy one.

All I am really going to say about what happened to me is that I experienced some oppressive theology that didn't fit my theology at all. This in and of itself did not bother me, but the fact that I did not feel like I could disagree did bother me. It was like I was the heretic and the 'sinner'. I've never felt more alone in my life. I've never been so angry in all my life and I was literally shaking afterward. I was enraged.

I simply could not believe that someone would put their own theology in front of loving others. Loving people comes before beliefs, doctrine, and all opinions. There is a healthy way to express opinions, and there is a hurtful way to express them. Jesus called us to love people more than we love ourselves. This means that we cannot love our own ideas about doctrine or theology more than we love others. We can put more value in proving ourselves right over loving people. Jesus comes first, people come second, we come dead last. That's the way we are called to live, and not everyone really understands that.

How being right can hurt

Posted at: Inspired thoughts | Syndicated: June 21st, 2006 @ 12:30 pm

I know I haven't posted on this website for a long time. I haven't felt like I have had a lot of things to write about. A lot of what I've been thinking and praying about haven't been ideas that I want to share with the blog reader world. That being said, I feel the need to write about an experience that happened to me months ago. I was not in the right place to write about this earlier, because the emotions were too high and the experience too fresh. This experience that I had was very painful and involved people that I had trusted, and I was very emotional for some time. I needed to get some perspective and only time can bring that.

That being said, the topic I've been wanting to address is about being right. We as Christians have our beliefs and doctrines that we hold very dearly and these doctrines are important. We base our lives on our faith and it becomes so much a part of our identity as people. But the truth of the matter is that not all Christians agree on every point in the Bible, and I truly believe that we are not meant to agree on every point of the Bible. I believe that God made us to think for ourselves and it is certainly not a bad thing to disagree about messy scriptures in the Bible. There are topics in all denominations that are sticky issues and they will always exist, because of different opinions about what the Bible says. Needless to say, there is a reason why we have denominations, because different denominations serve different populations and cultures. As far as I'm concerned, we're all on the same team. We have the same Jesus, the same salvation, and the same eternal life. This makes us a team.

Apparently I was mistaken when I originally thought that all Christians were open to discuss all issues, and put aside judgments and just plain bigotry. I was dead wrong. Now I know I sound like some bitter person, but to let you know I was bitter. I was hurt very deeply and I don't think I really realized it until now, which is a good while later. I think the only way to heal is to let it go and let God take care of it. I've tried my darndest to forgive and forget, but its a daily process and not an easy one.

All I am really going to say about what happened to me is that I experienced some oppressive theology that didn't fit my theology at all. This in and of itself did not bother me, but the fact that I did not feel like I could disagree did bother me. It was like I was the heretic and the 'sinner'. I've never felt more alone in my life. I've never been so angry in all my life and I was literally shaking afterward. I was enraged.

I simply could not believe that someone would put their own theology in front of loving others. Loving people comes before beliefs, doctrine, and all opinions. There is a healthy way to express opinions, and there is a hurtful way to express them. Jesus called us to love people more than we love ourselves. This means that we cannot love our own ideas about doctrine or theology more than we love others. We can put more value in proving ourselves right over loving people. Jesus comes first, people come second, we come dead last. That's the way we are called to live, and not everyone really understands that.

There are no outcasts…

Posted at: Bring all the walls down | Syndicated: June 19th, 2006 @ 4:13 pm

So, I finally got a job today! It isn't a church job, but it's a ministry nonetheless. I couldn't be more excited! Yes, I'm nervous, but the excitement is much stronger.

I will be teaching special ed reading at a local junior high school this fall. I interviewed with the principal this afternoon. As soon as I started talking to her, I knew I wanted to work for her. A couple of hours later, she was calling me to offer the position. I accepted immediately, of course!

Now, on to other news. My grandfather had a bad accident on Friday when he pulled out in front of someone. He was in ICU on Friday with a broken ankle, shoulder and a couple of ribs. He had surgery and was moved to his own room. But today he was moved back to ICU when his oxygen dropped. He was fighting the nurses and he can be quite ornery and mean when provoked. So, if you could please pray for his recovery AND patience from everyone involved, I would appreciate it.

Thanks so much for all your support. My absence from this space has been the result of extreme busy-ness and not having much to report. I'm glad I had some good news this time, in spite of the bad.

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